Curse

Mordiego · Jan 13, 2012, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that a lot of players tend to leave GW for good after they score 50/50 HoM? I know the game is old nad new content hasn't been released in a while but this is something different... I think. 50/50 HoM seemed like a goal for many players and after they got one, they lost the passion to play the game.

I don't know if it has been suggested in here but I thought maybe aNet could give another goal to reach by leaving the 50/50 as a max one with the current status, but add only ONE extra GW2 reward title ("Legendary Completionist" or just simply "Completionist" or w/e) for (insert your idea here)...

my ideas (sorted acording to HoM monuments):
-Devotion: 100+ minis (50 is now the maximum one gets reward for). 113 minis total in the game, excluding asian gives 103. 100 seems aquireable.
-Fellowship: Keiran + Miku statues in addition to all others
-Honor: 50 statues (40 is now the maximum one gets reward for). 53 total available, commander not possible to aquire. That would leave 2 titles one could miss. It could liven up pvp a bit...
-Resilience: all 20 armors (7 is now the maximum one gets reward for)
-Valor: all 44 weapons including Imperial (15 is now the maximum one gets reward for)

I will emphasize it again: they could leave 50/50 hom as a max one. just point out that one would get another title for fulfiling additional req.

edit:
some French guys alrdy mad a fan-made version of the HoM calculator that awards 100 points instead of 50.
http://exthom.spyl.net/?lang=en_US

Olle · Jan 13, 2012, 04:31 PM // 16:31

So after getting FULL HoM, wasting more cash, grinding eaven more, they can quit..?

the 50/50 doesnt matter that much tbh, its the persons view, alot people are finished with the game after 50/50.

Me?
Im on my third 50/50 account, soon got 30 points.

TL;DR It will only add more grinding before people leave

EDIT:
Miniature polar bear, minature Zhang, Miniature peacekeeper,Miniature greased lightning, Strongbox minis..
Need to say more?
all of those unded together is atleast 2,000 ectos.

/notsigned.

Lil Leena · Jan 13, 2012, 04:44 PM // 16:44

No. Just No.

As Olle stated, those minis that are high-end (not asian) are really expensive and out of most peoples reach, not to mention there aren't as many in circulation as the lower end ones. Doesn't seem fair imo.

As for making people obtain more titles-more grind, more money. People don't want to be forced to PvP. The 50/50 (or 35) is very obtainable for most people. by pushing it to 100 you'd just create an even bigger gold sink.

Bad idea.

turbo234 · Jan 13, 2012, 04:53 PM // 16:53

adding more things to do will just hold them off that much longer. people will get bored when they've achieved everything(everything reasonable at least) and move on.

jazilla · Jan 13, 2012, 04:54 PM // 16:54

50/50 is perfect. What's even more perfect imo is that you can get all the HoM calculator items for GW2 with just 30. They didn't make it too easy or too hard. If you want 50/50 you have to do some work for it, but it's just titles.

Mintha Syl · Jan 13, 2012, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Horrible idea. If some quit after getting 50/50 that's cause they only played for that goal to start with. So why "force" them to stay?
People who play cause they like te game in all and all don't quit cause of that, and sure we don't need other useless things to give you stuff for GW2.
And also, quoting for the truth:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

It will only add more grinding before people leave

Mordiego · Jan 13, 2012, 04:56 PM // 16:56

That's what I mean: an option to grind for the ones who like to grind or got nothing else to do. Nothing obligatory.

Olle · Jan 13, 2012, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Making the max score 100(cant make it 51 really) would mean i am not max.
If im not max it would mean i need to be maxxed.

I and many others dont kindly waste 1000e+- (reselling after dedication that is).

Missing HB · Jan 13, 2012, 05:49 PM // 17:49

If it's about adding extra things in HoM related to PvP and, furthermore, that could make it live more a little, then for sure /signed...
But if it's not, you can see where this will go... I think there are already enough good rewards for grinds in the game( grinding in PvE UW/DoA 24/7 like an addict already gives a sufficient reward i guess, or allows you to buy the 50/50 at least...), and the game is already enough abused ...

How fun will it be, people farming 24/7 or abusing PvP with extra accounts will be the only ones( apart of GvG mat winners) to buy those other points....

I don't disagree that we would need more things to do and HoM could be more than 50/50, but the idea about making it even more about grind isn't really fine...

Swingline · Jan 13, 2012, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Not everyone is the same but for most its generally agreed that once a person has gotten 50/50 they have experienced most if not all of the game. For me I still play because I have friends that play and there is nothing else out in terms of online MMOs that I want to play.

/notsigned

We don't need more HoM crap. We need more stuff to encourage people to play with other people instead of loading heroes. People make online games interesting. Sure your going to run into idiots but after getting 50/50 and gwamm with heroes I actually try to find zaishen quest groups that don't use heroes because its fun.

In short, heroes get the job done but they won't make it as interesting as people.

Reformed · Jan 13, 2012, 06:14 PM // 18:14

It'd probably put a lot of pressure on the mini market if the supply started to dip on limited ones. Good if you happen to have a stash of them to exploit it with I suppose. If it came down to resource allocation and getting people to play the game I'd prefer they made a new dungeon or updated Sorrows Furnace instead of extended HoM activity.

Xsiriss · Jan 13, 2012, 06:24 PM // 18:24

50/50 means you should play a different game, even MMO's have to end somewhere (even if it's a subjective thing). It does NOT mean you whine about there being nothing more to do in a 6 year old game.

Mireles · Jan 13, 2012, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordiego

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that a lot of players tend to leave GW for good after they score 50/50 HoM? I know the game is old nad new content hasn't been released in a while but this is something different... I think. 50/50 HoM seemed like a goal for many players and after they got one, they lost the passion to play the game.

I don't know if it has been suggested in here but I thought maybe aNet could give another goal to reach by leaving the 50/50 as a max one with the current status, but add only ONE extra GW2 reward title ("Legendary Completionist" or just simply "Completionist" or w/e) for (insert your idea here)...

my ideas (sorted acording to HoM monuments):
-Devotion: 100+ minis (50 is now the maximum one gets reward for). 113 minis total in the game, excluding asian gives 103. 100 seems aquireable.
-Fellowship: Keiran + Miku statues in addition to all others
-Honor: 50 statues (40 is now the maximum one gets reward for). 53 total available, commander not possible to aquire. That would leave 2 titles one could miss. It could liven up pvp a bit...
-Resilience: all 20 armors (7 is now the maximum one gets reward for)
-Valor: all 44 weapons including Imperial (15 is now the maximum one gets reward for)

I will emphasize it again: they could leave 50/50 hom as a max one. just point out that one would get another title for fulfiling additional req.

When HoM came out it revived my guild for about 4-6 months... when everyone got 50/50 they stopped playing.

I think HoM rewards are casual enough and need to stay that way.... People that have mass resources and experience to be a "completionist" shouldn't carry over into GW2 in the from of an extra title over normal 50/50 if its going to be a new game. All adding another separate reward/title is going to do is make people complain that its to hard until they make it easier, like the past 3-4 years.

However I do feel that adding some content titles for GW beyond or quest completions and upping the max title track would give ppl something to do...and have whatever rank in that track go to gw2 with your respective rank over 30 titles. You can add that because its already going to be a title your just adding ranks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swingline

We don't need more HoM crap. We need more stuff to encourage people to play with other people instead of loading heroes. People make online games interesting. Sure your going to run into idiots but after getting 50/50 and gwamm with heroes I actually try to find zaishen quest groups that don't use heroes because its fun.

In short, heroes get the job done but they won't make it as interesting as people.

Well put, i think the stupidest thing they ever done was add 7 hero parties turned the game into an online RPG that you never have to have contact with a single person to complete. I would say to this... add a non-hero hard mode with ridiculous rewards similar to those that were pumped into PvP

Essence Snow · Jan 13, 2012, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordiego

my ideas (sorted acording to HoM monuments):
-Devotion: 100+ minis (50 is now the maximum one gets reward for). 113 minis total in the game, excluding asian gives 103. 100 seems aquireable.
-Fellowship: Keiran + Miku statues in addition to all others
-Honor: 50 statues (40 is now the maximum one gets reward for). 53 total available, commander not possible to aquire. That would leave 2 titles one could miss. It could liven up pvp a bit...
-Resilience: all 20 armors (7 is now the maximum one gets reward for)
-Valor: all 44 weapons including Imperial (15 is now the maximum one gets reward for)

I will emphasize it again: they could leave 50/50 hom as a max one. just point out that one would get another title for fulfiling additional req.

Just glancing at your HoM and seeing that you already have 100 minis ded there, 49 titles, and the rest filled....I see what your up to. From 90-103 the minis jump in price soo much that it is w/o question rediculous to put any added bonus associated with them as it's next to impossible for most of the population.

Might I suggest you work on codex, hero, champ and obtaining those last 3 minis?

You cannot leave 50/50 as max then add soemthing above it b/c simply put then 50/50 would no longer be max.

I'm sry that in GW2 you will only be one of myrads of 50/50 ppl starting out.

bhavv · Jan 13, 2012, 07:57 PM // 19:57

No, what a terrible idea.

Its just points and titles, you dont need any of that stuff and to require that much grind to fill everything up would be beyond retarded.

100+ minis and 20+ armour sets ... Completely impossible from a storage perspective, no sane person would want to do that. Theres no point in giving just the few people who have all that junk anything extra just so they can feel like they are better than everyone else.

Rumi The Poet · Jan 13, 2012, 08:08 PM // 20:08

50/50 is incredibly easy to attain considering all the services offered. All youd need to

do is join an experienced guild and just leech your way to victory basically. Im the only

one i know of that thought the 50/50 requirement was setting a low standard in

achievement. Everyone who has the time to play will acquire 50/50 making it more

common than peanut butter and jelly. And what of the people with multiple GWAMM's?

Sorry but you wasted your time.. 1 GWAMM is basically the same as 10 GWAMMS

according to 50/50. Anet knew this before they created HoM calculator.. My guess is a

high up staffer with very little time to play wanted max reputation for GW2 so they

made it really lame for them.

Mists · Jan 13, 2012, 08:11 PM // 20:11

No thanks.

50/50 is enough of a "completion" goal for me. If you need something else to do, try to get GWAMM on one of your characters.

drowze · Jan 13, 2012, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I have 50/50, almost completed my second GWAMM... I might work on a third one, if I get an interesting hero team going again. I completely understand that some people have had enough of after getting 50/50 and a gwamm though. I would have quit GW a long time ago, if it weren't for some great ingame friends that I play with most of the time.
About getting more points for hom, no ty... but any new content is good for me. Still looking forward to the final chapter of WoC^^

**cosyfiep** · Jan 13, 2012, 10:15 PM // 22:15

/not signed....some of the minis are just NOT OBTAINABLE!!
as a person who is getting a full + HoM (yes I am working on getting all of what the OP said--BUT, I also know there are things that just aint gonna' happen).

after 30/50 its all a title why bother to get another? There are a few that are working on this already--the anal amongst us (ME for one

)....but other than the feeling of accomplishment??? no, totally NOT needed!

Jim Beam · Jan 14, 2012, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Ya id like it if they added a higher cap on the calculator, hell id like it if they added a special item for anyone who reaches 50/50 but thats besides the point.

Tbh I dont get the reasoning behind, "anything beyond 50 is to much grind", its supposed to be giving people who already have a maxed hall something else to do. Seriously, is adding a higher cap gonna hurt anyone?